Comments on: Online Experiment With the Latest Hockey Stick

By: EffonnaTeer

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By: Start Wall

Start Wall — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:43:58 +0000

great work if it you can prove it to be true

By: Two Graphs To Dismiss Mann « The Unbearable Nakedness of CLIMATE CHANGE

Two Graphs To Dismiss Mann « The Unbearable Nakedness of CLIMATE CHANGE — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:00:57 +0000

[...] Graphs To Dismiss Mann 17 10 2008 From The Air Vent’s Online Experiment With the Latest Hockey Stick: Data used by Mann for extrapolation Data used vs not used for extrapolation by Mann Mann used a [...]

By: Palo de hockey II, primeros resultados. « PlazaMoyua.org

Palo de hockey II, primeros resultados. « PlazaMoyua.org — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:21:11 +0000

[...] Jeff Id (noconsensus.wordpress.com) provides us with some new perspective on the new hockey stick graph, Mann et al. 2008. It seems that the paper is not only a case of sub-prime science but an example of scientific fraud. [...]

By: paulm

paulm — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:56:01 +0000

Still looks roughly like a hockey stick, especially if you like hockey.

By: Hot Link » Blog Archive » Jeff Id: cherry-picking in new hockey stick graph

Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:00:12 +0000

By: Owen McShane

Owen McShane — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:41:13 +0000

At the onset of the Little Ice Age the Polynesians ceased their migration to New Zealand. (Maori)
The Pacific is not normally regarded as part of Europe.

By: Diatribical Idiot

Diatribical Idiot — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:18:04 +0000

Good stuff, Jeff. Nice analysis.

By: MattN

MattN — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:21:06 +0000

So this appears to be very nearly the same exact sleight-of-hand mathmatical trickery that he used before, yes?

By: Alan S. Blue

Alan S. Blue — Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:57:52 +0000

Jeff,

If you really want to get steamed, do research on the shaft of the hockey stick. The elimination of the Medieval Warm Period is the egregious piece. Just plugging that into a search and following through history texts and summations of the period by historians gives a wildly non-flat impression of the temperature. It may be “regional”, but the local climate observations are pretty extensive and well-documented (if, admittedly, imprecise) from Greenland through central Asia and south into Africa. IOW: A pretty freaking big ‘region.’

By: Jeff Id

Jeff Id — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:50:50 +0000

Jimmy BH

The weighting you suggest would be correct for my graph. However, the weighting Mann used is based on location (lat and long) so I need to do some more work to put corrected weighting on this.

Gary,

I don’t know the origin of Michael Mann’s salary but the problem is much bigger than the US government. His graphs are the cornerstone of the UN Intergovernmental panel on Climate Change. An organization who’s survival depends on climate change. Antrhopogenic global warming is more than a 100Billion dollar industry and it won’t go away anytime soon.

Raven,

I think it has been cleared up.

By: Gary Plyler

Gary Plyler — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 19:04:24 +0000

Is Mann (et. al) getting federal funding for this potential fraud and/or malfeasance? Am I as a taxpayer paying for his shennanigans in the form of grant studies?

When will the scientific community censure such potentially criminal conduct? When will an example be made?

By: Raven

Raven — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:21:51 +0000

Icecap has you mixed up with Ian Jolliff: http://www.icecap.us/
You might want to send him a note.

By: A Stoner

A Stoner — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:01:06 +0000

When it comes to global warming alrmists, I am sorry, but benifit of the doubt is not how to approach these human hating entities. Scientists have a responsibility to get to the truth, not to get to some predetermined end result. People in industry have responsibility to get to an end result. Scientists must aim to uncover truth and only truth.

By: JimmyBH

JimmyBH — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 05:33:59 +0000

Am I correct in assuming that an average of the “final data” graph would need to be weighted 55/46 in favor of the dark blue line?

At any rate, I would also be interested in an average of that graph.

Interesting blog, I found it this evening via the “random hot post” feature on the WordPress dashboard.

-j