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Obamanable

Posted by Jeff Id on June 23, 2009

Right after speaking on the hideous Iranian bastard government, Obama moved into his plans for the ‘green’ economy and how it’s going to make jobs for everyone.

Now, the second issue I want to address is our ongoing effort to build a clean energy economy.

This week, the House of Representatives is moving ahead on historic legislation that will transform the way we produce and use energy in America.

This legislation will spark a clean energy transformation that will reduce our dependence on foreign oil and confront the carbon pollution that threatens our planet.

This energy bill will create a set of incentives that will spur the development of new sources of energy, including wind, solar, and geothermal power. It will also spur new energy savings, like efficient windows and other materials that reduce heating costs in the winter and cooling costs in the summer.

These incentives will finally make clean energy the profitable kind of energy. And that will lead to the development of new technologies that lead to new industries that could create millions of new jobs in America, jobs that can’t be shipped overseas.

At a time of great fiscal challenges, this legislation is paid for by the polluters who currently emit the dangerous carbon emissions that contaminate the water we drink and pollute the air we breathe. It also provides assistance to businesses and communities as they make the gradual transition to clean energy technologies.

So I believe that this legislation is extraordinarily important for our country. It’s taken great effort on the part of many over the course of months. I want to thank the chair of the Energy and Commerce Committee, Henry Waxman; his colleagues on that committee, including Congressmen Dingell, Ed Markey, and Rick Boucher.

I also want to thank Charlie Rangel, the chair of the Ways and Means Committee, and Collin Peterson, the chair of the Agriculture Committee, for their many and ongoing contributions to this process. And I want to express my appreciation to Nancy Pelosi and Steny Hoyer for their leadership.

OBAMA: We all know why this is so important. The nation that leads in the creation of a clean energy economy will be the nation that leads the 21st century’s global economy. That’s what this legislation seeks to achieve. It’s a bill that will open the door to a better future for this nation and that’s why I urge members of Congress to come together and pass it.


44 Responses to “Obamanable”

  1. Carl Gullans said

    I don’t see how anybody can sell a policy that amounts to a massive tax as something that will save money and create jobs.

  2. Steve Fitzpatrick said

    Wow! “…the dangerous carbon emissions that contaminate the water we drink and pollute the air we breathe.”

    CO2 polluting the water we drink and contaminating the air we breathe? The CO2 concentration in my bedroom (from my own breathing) is probably 3 times higher than CO2 in the open air… so am I polluting my environment? Why do I drink heavily carbonated beverages which are “contaminated” with thousands of times the expected CO2 concentration in water under the worst of the atmospheric emissions projections? (For that matter, why do Mr. Obama and his family drink these “contaminated” beverages?)

    When will we elect a president who has some technical background? Mr. Obama is a good lawyer and a gifted politician, but it is frightening to imagine he will influence future laws and regulations on CO2 emissions and efforts to reduce global warming.

  3. joshv said

    The nations that lead the 21st century will be those who build the most coal and nuclear power plants and don’t hamstring themselves with CO2 caps.

  4. “…jobs that can’t be shipped overseas.”

    Like the thousands of Microsoft jobs which Mr. Ballmer has predicted will end up overseas if you implement this massive tax? Talk about a jobs killer, Waxman-Markey is about as good a jobs killer as a bill which made work illegal would be.

  5. JAE said

    The dumb jackass…

  6. Magnus A said

    Martin Hale: “Waxman-Markey is about as good a jobs killer as a bill which made work illegal would be.”

    Hear-hear!

  7. Kenneth Fritsch said

    At a time of great fiscal challenges, this legislation is paid for by the polluters who currently emit the dangerous carbon emissions that contaminate the water we drink and pollute the air we breathe.

    Even if I did not agree with his dream world predictions, I could not call his comments dumb ass – until I read the one above. And, as Steve M often notes, it is going that one bridge too far that makes one appear as a dumb ass. Lets see if the MSM picks up on this one as they would if George Bush had uttered it.

  8. Ryan O said

    Where can I go to vomit?

  9. page48 said

    <blockquote cite="“At a time of great fiscal challenges, this legislation is paid for by the polluters who currently emit the dangerous carbon emissions that contaminate the water we drink and pollute the air we breathe.”“>

    Has anyone told him that we breath out CO2? Oh, wait, I guess so – the citizens that dare breathe out will be footing the bills for all this cleaness.

    Thanks for providing the text, Jeff. I can’t watch him anymore.

  10. Gary P said

    #2 Steve Fitzpatrick said,”…Mr. Obama is a good lawyer…”
    References please.

  11. page48 said

    oops – screwed up the block quote. I’m having a bad HTML day

  12. Jeff Id said

    I just heard the transcript for the alleged press conference. The press corp laughed all the way through it. It was like a stand up show, sure didn’t read that way to me. Obama had all the reporters pre-chosen and they apparently read their questions from printed sheets.

  13. Ryan O said

    Perhaps this is childish, but I can’t stand to watch or listen to him. I’m glad you have the patience for it.

  14. Konrad said

    “the water we drink”, “the air we breathe” seems straight from the EcoAmerica report “Climate and Energy Truths: Our Common Future” on how to change AGW PR. If you find this recent scientificaly vacuous propaganda from Obama disturbing it is worth taking the time and pain to read that report. I suggest that all of the spin, propaganda and gross economy with the truth that Obama will soon be spouting can be found within it’s sordid pages.

  15. page48 said

    “It will also spur new energy savings, like efficient windows and other materials that reduce heating costs in the winter and cooling costs in the summer.”

    How much you want to bet that some of the first green jobs created are for window inspectors. Won’t it be fun to have government employees traipsing through our (formerly) secure homes, checking for window leaks and noting convenient points of entry for clandestine returns.

  16. Jeff Id said

    #13, Id love to claim the high ground but I read the speech that made this post and heard the giggling on a talk show on the way home.

    Can’t watch either. How is it possible for people to be so ignorant about this guy?

  17. Ryan O said

    #16 I don’t know. I really don’t. Well, maybe I kind of do.

    In some ways, I associate politics with religion. The political beliefs of people does not seem closely tied with logic. Look at Marx’s theories, for example. If there ever was an example of a eco-political philosophy that kept adding “exceptions” to explain away difficulties with the base theory, Marxism has to be it. Unfortunately, some of the current socialist thought relies heavily (even if adherents don’t recognize it) on Marxism, which to me is a philosophy based on rationalization.

    On the other end of the spectrum, look at how long it took Keynes to be accepted – and even that acceptance didn’t translate into policy that could actually be said to be Keynesian. (Not saying Keynes was perfect – he wasn’t – but at least he didn’t rely on a bunch of unprovable and contradictory ad hoc assumptions.)

    Hopefully readers don’t take this comment as disparaging toward religion. I, for example, am religious. However, I am also aware that my choice of beliefs is arbitrary as it was primarily driven by upbringing rather than having a strong theoretical foundation. With that in mind, attempting to dissuade me of my beliefs using logic is a futile endeavor as they are not based in logic to begin with.

    This is why attempting to dissuade people of their political beliefs – in my opinion, anyway – is so difficult. Even when presented with contrary evidence, people have a tendency to rationalize their way out of it because the prospect of their worldview being drastically wrong is unsettling. Same thing happens with religion.

    That is why politics and religion do not belong in science. They are blinding.

    I have to admit, though, that I find it hard to separate them myself, sometimes. I try – but I’m not always sure I succeed.

  18. TCO said

    Listening to the Republicans bitch about Obama on Iran just makes me blood boil. Those effete politicians don’t give a shit about the Iranian people, don’t give a shit about geopolitics. All they care about is Hannity style talking points. Reminds me of the butt-suckers on JOM who were defending the Bush bailout, “because it would stop the Republicans from looking bad”. they need to take Ensign and all the rest of these maggots and tie them in bags and throw them in the Tiber river. They are soft and unworthy.

  19. thechuckr said

    When you really think about it, he is doing what he promised he would do which is more than most politicians do. Of course what he wants to do will bankrupt the country, destroy our healthcare system, raise taxes regressively, and annihilate the competitiveness of the American economy but he is keeping his promises of “change we can all believe in.” I actually can’t stand to listen to or watch him anymore.

  20. Jeff Id said

    “a philosophy based on rationalization.”

    I really like that. Self sacrifice because it will all be better when we work together. Damn, why can’t people see it doesn’t work and never will..

  21. Ryan O said

    #18 Agree 100%.

    #20 I don’t know. If we did know, then perhaps we could convince them otherwise. Haha. :)

  22. page48 said

    RE #17

    Interesting assessment, Ryan.

    There’s an element of gleeful nihilism in the current administration that I find most distressing, but that seems to appeal to a lot of folks. The Obama machine has effectively demonized an ill-defined group of “haves” and gently fomented the equally ill-defined “have-nots” (comprised not just of the poor & under-served, but of anyone with an ax to grind, as far as I can tell) into a vengeful lot who appear to be actually less interested in the entitlements he’s promoting than in extracting retribution from the evil “haves.”

    Creeps me out.

    Jeff, I wanted to apologize for junking up your CPS thread with the embedded picture debacle. I got carried away because I would love to be able to see more of the graphs created by some of your contributors; visual aids are very helpful to those of us who are statistical novices. I actually thought I knew what I was doing (always a mistake). Anyway, I hope the offending posts have already been deleted; I certainly don’t enjoy reading through junked up threads any more than anyone else & would hate to be the cause.

  23. Matt Y. said

    Perhaps this is childish, but I can’t stand to watch or listen to him. I’m glad you have the patience for it.

    Me either. I think it comes down to not liking to be talked down to, patronized, and lied to. Yeah, that pretty well describes all politicians, but this guy has given new meaning to the word disingenuous. I definitely have developed a visceral dislike for the man. Lord help us, even Hillary would be an improvement!

  24. Matt Y. said

    #18

    I only wish the problem was politicians. That would be a relatively easy fix. The real problem is the stupid, ignorant, indoctrinated, lazy, greedy, and apathetic voters. I’m afraid we are screwed. The dumbass public has bought into the idea that it is an injustice for a country as rich as the US not to have massive welfare. It never seems to dawn on them just why America is so prosperous to begin with. So America is changing from the land of opportunity to the soup kitchen of the free lunch. Hope you all like mac and cheese.

  25. Jeff Id said

    One thing I understand partly about Obama is his response to Iran’s brutal murder of its citizens. I saw the video of Nada dyeing before I knew that’s what it was, and I won’t be forgetting that for the rest of this life.

    Obama has said squat – not my style in case you didn’t notice. His point at his press circle jerk was to make certain not to give an avenue to blame the West and galvanize the crazy Iranian public – It’s more than a little weak because he takes the same approach with every country so far, and his apology tour made me sick. However, in this case what does it hurt. The mullahs will do what they do either way –really! Even if Obama drops the F bomb on them it will change nothing and Iran will continue headlong toward the H.

    There had better be some boiling of tempers going on behind the scenes though and I doubt there are. There doesn’t seem to be a serious intellect behind Obama’s rhetoric and I hope for our sakes I’m wrong.

  26. TCO said

    24. You are right. The sort of proud yeoman like spirit of the country is leaving and we are left with Goldman Sachs fucks that bleed the taxpayers, cheat on their taxes and get elected as Democrats.

  27. TCO said

    Who cares what Obama says. The more important story is what is going on in Iran between the sides.

  28. JAE said

    Matt Y:

    “Me either. I think it comes down to not liking to be talked down to, patronized, and lied to. Yeah, that pretty well describes all politicians, but this guy has given new meaning to the word disingenuous. I definitely have developed a visceral dislike for the man. Lord help us, even Hillary would be an improvement!”

    Right on, IMHO. And I don’t think you have seen ANYTHING yet. This sock puppet is going to INTENTIONALLY create havoc on our society, by constantly creating crises and then “suggesting” ways to fix them. Unless the mass of uninformed public morons who never read a paper or think about politics wakes up (doubtful), the ONE will destroy our whole economy before he gets “caught.” Then HE will try to assume complete control of a panicked public. The ONLY hopeful thing, IMHO, is that there are a lot of government and other public workers (liberals, almost to a person) who are losing their jobs and hurting. Maybe they can sound the alarm and make a difference. But not if things get pushed through as fast as the Big-Eared Jackass wants. Congress appears to be completely oblivious. He is winning so far.

  29. Jeff Id said

    #22, Don’t even think about it. No matter how polite anyone writes something it’s hard to interpret the meaning. Take it as it was written, it’s incumbent on the writer to be as clear as possible. No matter how much TCO makes me into a moderator, this will be a free speech blog or I’ll close the thing.

    I appreciate it if there isn’t cussing or verbal fist fights.

    TAV is getting bigger though and I may have some learning to do.

  30. AEGeneral said

    The sad thing for me is that not only am I going to pay more for my own utilities, I’m going to have to pay even more of others’ who don’t/can’t pay their bills because that’s the way it works where I live.

  31. JAE said

    What is REALLY SCARY is that we have the “Leader of the Free World” making this kind of absolutely STUPID statement, and then we are supposed to trust what he says about IRAN? North Korea? Health Care? WTF??

  32. oakgeo said

    “… the dangerous carbon emissions that contaminate the water we drink and pollute the air we breathe.” Hoo boy. He’s brought the science back, alright, back about 500 years.

  33. Mark T said

    Ryan O said

    Not saying Keynes was perfect – he wasn’t – but at least he didn’t rely on a bunch of unprovable and contradictory ad hoc assumptions

    Um, yes he did. In fact, that’s why Milton Friedman won his Nobel. He, along with the Austrians, have disproved Keynes’ theories on the economy repeatedly.

    Mark

  34. Mark T said

    Steve Fitzpatrick said

    When will we elect a president who has some technical background?

    This has nothing to do with science or technical understanding; it is all about controlling our lives. It matters not one whit whether Obama believes this crap or not.

    Mark

  35. Ralph B said

    Me…I see history repeating its self. Waxman-Malarkey during the depths of a deep recession could be a kicker like Smoot-Hawley during the Great Depression.

    If Obama and the anti-CO2 crowd were true in their beliefs they would be pushing hard for nuclear power or space based solar. Neither one of which is even talked about. That crowd considers humanity a blight on the planet (with the notable exception of themselves).

    Iran was lost back in 1979, could’ve saved it then but the first Obama left the one US friend in the ME to rot.

  36. Steve Fitzpatrick said

    Gary P said
    June 23, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    #2 Steve Fitzpatrick said,”…Mr. Obama is a good lawyer…”
    References please.

    Selected as editor of the Harvard Law Review, which is supposed to be pretty good. But please bear in mind that for me the word “lawyer” is at least mildly pejorative; somewhat weaker than “thief” but somewhat stronger than “prostitute”.

  37. Andy said

    As far as I can see, you elected a man to the Presidency whose only qualification is to write books about himself saying he’s great.

  38. Steve Fitzpatrick said

    Mark T said
    June 24, 2009 at 2:42 am

    “This has nothing to do with science or technical understanding; it is all about controlling our lives. It matters not one whit whether Obama believes this crap or not.”

    Nor does it matter to Mr. Obama what the reality is; that is the point. The objective reality of science and technology are a non-sequitur in the decision making process of most politicians, who also happen to be lawyers; no coincidence there. What matters to most politicians (of both the left and the right) is the power to control other people’s lives, since this is what gets them re-elected and makes them wealthy. Elect Jeff Id president and I suspect objective reality would begin to matter.

  39. woodNfish said

    Right after speaking on the hideous Iranian bastard government

    Wow an actual bastard speaking about a “bastard government”. I have the same problem several of you have – I can’t watch or listen to the idiot, and I don’t understand the sycophantic press. It’s disgusting because they just refuse to question the guy.

    It is just like the headline the other day, “Obama to tell men how to be good fathers”. I’m thinking, “How can a bastard, who knows nothing of what a good father is, tell other men how to be one?” But when you think his only accomplishments other than being elected are writing two books about himself, he thinks he’s Mr. Wonderful and The Great Teacher, which is why he is always talking down to everyone. Well as far as I’m concerned, it’s all in his mind, and he can stick it up his wahzoo.

    This whole thing with the emissions and energy bills makes me want to vomit. 3 1/2 more years of this crap to go.

  40. Stan said

    Re: politics as religion (ref. #17) — the best single determinant of how someone votes in America today is how often they attend religious services. Democratic voters (on average) have abandoned traditional religion and adopted politics as their religion instead. [Some would argue that the old mainline protestant religious groups in the US have, too.] Charles Krauthammer nailed it when he said that Republicans think Democrats are wrong and Democrats think Republicans are evil. “Evil” is a religious concept and Krauthammer’s apt description explains why the left is so vicious — they see themselves on a never-ending crusade to destroy the forces of evil.

    Re: Obama — I’ve never heard him say anything particularly intelligent. I have heard him say remarkably stupid things on a number of occasions. So far, he’s been revealed to be a petty, thin-skinned, extraordinarily dishonest, hubristic narcissist with a disdain for the law and a penchant for slandering anyone who disagrees with him. He clearly wants to make the US as socialist as possible. I don’t think he has any real understanding of the economics, but I don’t think he cares, either. Making an effort to understand the economics would require some interest in reality and a concern for consequences. He hasn’t manifested such an interest.

    If you want to understand Obama, read Bill Ayers (who likely wrote Obama’s book for him see e.g. http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/who_wrote_dreams_and_why_it_ma_1.html ) and Rev. Jeremiah Wright. They played major roles in his life, along with Frank Marshall Davis (communist admirer of Stalin and someone Obama says was very influential in his early years).

    re: TCO — I’d like to encourage you to try reality for a change. It’s probably not as comforting as your ideological cocoon, but it has the advantage of being accurate.

  41. Kenneth Fritsch said

    It is just like the headline the other day, “Obama to tell men how to be good fathers”. I’m thinking, “How can a bastard, who knows nothing of what a good father is, tell other men how to be one?”

    That is what I call going a bridge too far. I disagree with much of Obama’s politics, but I see absolutely no evidence that he is not a good father. Besides the kind of father he is has nothing to do with what I think of his policies or how he presents them.

    Your bastard comment seems like it is right of the Middle Ages when the term bastard was stigmatizing for life.

  42. woodNfish said

    Ken, I don’t think you have to go that far back in time. And I mean it exactly that way. It is literally correct, and it serves a second useful purpose as a term of derision. As Alton Brown would say, “It’s a multitasker.”

  43. Billy Ruff'n said

    If you care to see how Obama’s presser is dissected by a knowledgeable observer, see

    http://keithhennessey.com/2009/06/24/potus-presser-climate/

  44. TomB said

    Steve Fitzpatrick said
    June 24, 2009 at 9:05 am

    Gary P said
    June 23, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    #2 Steve Fitzpatrick said,”…Mr. Obama is a good lawyer…”
    References please.

    Selected as editor of the Harvard Law Review, which is supposed to be pretty good. But please bear in mind that for me the word “lawyer” is at least mildly pejorative; somewhat weaker than “thief” but somewhat stronger than “prostitute”.Uh, Barack Hussein Sortero Obama is the only editor of the Harvard Law Review – ever in its entire history – to never submit an article of his own for publication. Kinda like voting “present”.

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