Fascinating – No ice in 5 years
Posted by Jeff Id on December 14, 2009
Fascinating. The Goricle – moving the goal posts. h/t Ryan O.
When you read this, keep in mind that we have photos of US subs surfacing at the north pole in the summer. I’d bet the Gore …. inator (or whatever), his family fortune against mine hehe, that we will see nothing but ice at the pole for 5 years. Reporters don’t really do numbers so what the heck.
COPENHAGEN – New computer modeling suggests the Arctic Ocean may be nearly ice-free in the summertime as early as 2014, Al Gore said Monday at the U.N. climate conference. This new projection, following several years of dramatic retreat by polar sea ice, suggests that the ice cap may nearly vanish in the summer much sooner than the year 2030, as was forecast by a U.S. government agency eight months ago.
One U.S. government scientist Monday questioned the new prediction as too severe, but other researchers previously have projected a quicker end than 2030 to the Arctic summer ice cap.
“It is hard to capture the astonishment that the experts in the science of ice felt when they saw this,” said former U.S. Vice President Gore, who joined Scandinavian officials and scientists to brief journalists and delegates. It was Gore’s first appearance at the two-week conference.
I’ve got to say, my own astonishment is somewhat subdued. After all, we see climategate scientists exaggerating facts for a living, why wouldn’t sea ice scientists do the same? Do they get less money? Do they have different incentives? Whatever.
Perhaps their astonishment is from a different kind of ice model.
Meanwhile, what’s happening to Greenland’s titanic ice sheet “has really surprised us,” said Jensen of the University of Copenhagen.
She cited one huge glacier in west Greenland, at Jakobshavn, that in recent years has doubled its rate of dumping ice into the sea. Between melted land ice and heat expansion of ocean waters, the sea-level rise has increased from 1.8 millimeters a year to 3.4 millimeters (.07 inch a year to .13 inch) in the past 10 years.
Jensen said the biggest ice sheets — Greenland and West Antarctica — were already contributing 1 millimeter (.04 inch) a year to those rising sea levels. She said this could double within the next decade.
“With global warming, we have woken giants,” she said.
Woken, awoken, waked, whatever. The ‘doom’ predictions EVEN FROM THE MODELS must, MUST be due to the weather patterns and NOT due to a few tenths of a degree of warming.
Maybe we’re the sleeping giant Dr. Jensen was talking about.