Posted by Jeff Condon on March 29, 2010
An article from the morning call which requires a bit of translation. I don’t know how they do it with a straight face, but in my opinion the mann has a personality disorder. My comments below are in Red the article is in black.
Penn State global warming scientist Michael E. Mann regrets he did not instantly object when a fellow climatologist asked him in 2008 to delete e-mails subject to Freedom of Information requests.
“I wish in retrospect I had told him, ‘Hey, you shouldn’t even be thinking about this,’” Mann told The Morning Call in his first interview since the university last month launched an investigation into his conduct. “I didn’t think it was an appropriate request.”
Below we learn that Keith Briffa of climategate agreed to delete emails “Keith will do likewise”!! I find it difficult to reconcile “I’ll contact Gene about this ASAP” with — “I didn’t think it was appropriate”.
From: Michael Mann <firstname.lastname@example.org>
To: Phil Jones <email@example.com>
Subject: Re: IPCC & FOI
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:12:02 -0400
laughable that CA would claim to have discovered the problem. They would
have run off to the Wall Street Journal for an exclusive were that to
have been true.
I’ll contact Gene about this ASAP. His new email is: firstname.lastname@example.org
talk to you later,
Phil Jones wrote:
> Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4?
> Keith will do likewise. He’s not in at the moment – minor family crisis.
> Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I don’t
> have his new email address.
> We will be getting Caspar to do likewise.
> I see that CA claim they discovered the 1945 problem in the Nature
Despite the request by his British colleague Phil Jones, Mann did not delete e-mails, a Penn State University panel of inquiry found on Feb. 3. But the panel ordered further investigation, still in progress, over a general allegation of scientific misconduct by Mann.
Of course Penn State is the primary beneficiary of Mann’s grants. So when Penn State, investigated Penn State and finds no deleted emails that’s proof right? Just how did they determine that email wasn’t deleted?
Guh, Mike thanks for the piles of grant money, um, did ya do it?
Good enough for us – Case closed.
Penn State officials said Friday they could not yet provide further information on the probe.
One wonders just how they proved that emails weren’t destroyed…..hmm.
“There are a lot of things we could look back at and say, ‘Gee, I wish I had done this or that,’” Mann said. “The important thing is, I didn’t delete any e-mails. And I don’t think [Jones] did either.”
This email was sent by Jones several months after the above to Mann as well as others confirming the deletion of ‘loads’ of Jones emails.
CC’d to Mann
If he pays 10 pounds (which he hasn’t yet) I am supposed to go through my emails
and he can get anything I’ve written about him. About 2 months ago I deleted loads of
emails, so have very little – if anything at all. This legislation is different from the
There is all kinds of doubletalk through the rest of the article as well, first concluding we’re certain that this was the warmest period in the millenia followed by maybe not. Of course it’s my opinion that nobody knows. What’s surprising is that there is so much reasonably presented doubletalk, and apparently the unwitting reporters can’t detect it. Either that or they’re willing to let certain people say anything.
H/T to the anonymous reader who sent the link.