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Cancrap

Posted by Jeff Id on December 11, 2010

Ya can’t stop stupid.

Global accord on climate change hailed as breakthrough

Some bullet points on the Cancun agreement:

- Following the lead of the United States, Canada has pledged to reduce its emissions by 17 per cent from 2005 levels by 2020.

Short of massive economic collapse or starting wide spread nuclear power plant construction ten years ago, this is obviously a stupidly impossible goal.

- Ottawa has introduced new emission standards for automobiles and is moving on ships, airplanes and heavy trucks; it has also promised to pass regulations that will force the power sector to end its reliance on high-emitting coal over the next two decades.

Sweet, a tweak in regulation which will FORCE people to make electricity directly from unobtainium.  Good move Canada.

- Backed by Canada, the Americans also demanded that China, India, Brazil and other major developing countries agree to have their plans to reduce the rate of emissions growth monitored and verified by the international community. The developing countries have agreed to a review process, though one that is not as rigorous as the regime for developed countries.

Yup, of all the nations, developing ones are the most trustworthy.  Genius or Genious as TCO says.

- Alden Meyer, of the U.S.-based Union of Concerned Scientists, said the international deal could bolster President Barack Obama’s plan to have the Environmental Protection Agency impose greenhouse gas emission regulations on industry, a policy Canada has vowed to follow.

Well we might as well chuck the whole continent to the wind if the US is doing it.

- Under the deal, developed countries agreed to set up a “Green Climate Fund” that would manage most of the $100-billion (U.S.) per year promised to poor countries by 2020. It would be initially managed by the World Bank.

Bingo, there’s the point.  I don’t think they used US as an example here either, it ain’t hard to guess where most of the hundred billion will be stolen from.  US taxpayers.  Good thing we’re using it for credible goals like giving it to communist countries that repress their people and economies.

- The deal also sets up technology-transfer programs to help poorer countries adopt renewable energy technologies, and finance projects to reduce deforestation and encourage tree planting.

I can’t even imagine how they expect expensive energy production to help the poor but the machinations of the leftist mind are way beyond my comprehension.

- Countries also committed to limiting the increase in the global average temperature to 2 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels and pledged that they would consider strengthening the long-term goal to limit the increase to 1.5 degrees, something demanded by small islands states who fear the 2-degree target would leave their countries literally under water as a result of rising sea levels.

Sweet, they are going to control the Earths temperature by stealing my money and giving it to people who don’t produce the pollution they are complaining about.  And the press cheers it as a breakthrough.

Where is the common sense anymore?  It doesn’t make sense to steal money from semi-successful countries which produce the emissions and give it to repressive, and blatantly evil governments which don’t have the wherewithal to produce the emissions.  Unless, that isn’t really the goal.  When we see natural variance in the last 150 years of over 1 C, what sense does it make for a leftist global government to commit to stopping the world from changing by 2C?

Stupid is as stupid does, but what a joke when the entire press corp is hailing this as a good breakthrough around the world.  A globe of monkeys trying to lie, cheat and steal just get each others bananas.



23 Responses to “Cancrap”

  1. j ferguson said

    Jeff Id, it looks like you had the more accurate assessment of the threat of this sort of thing (agreements) all along. If the environmentalists are able to get their agenda built into EPA regulation and/or enforcement without US agreeing to any “legally binding” treaties, the evil will be done by fiat.

    The path to overturning an EPA runaway is long and complex. You cannot take the agency to court without already having exhausted all of their internal review mechanisms which can take considerable time and many iterations.

    I continue to think that the political threat to our economic jugular is regulatory/bureaucratic as the folks east of the pond are finding out – think Brussels.

    Good post. I’m finally getting it. Thanks, john

  2. Chuckles said

    Looks like pretty much exactly the same non-agreement they trotted out after Copenhagen. The hopeful recipients of all this largesse have been grumbling ever since that precious little was forthcoming.
    C’mon people, we have to have something to release to the media, lets just repeat what we said and claim it’s a breakthrough…

    Standard mendacity.

  3. Grant said

    This was a story by Shawn McCarthy in Canada’s left-leaning ‘Glob and Wail'; I suspect factual reports will confirm an ongoing UN morass and the obvious need for another fly-in meeting at a tropical resort.

  4. John M said

    Chuckles said
    December 11, 2010 at 11:27 am

    Looks like pretty much exactly the same non-agreement they trotted out after Copenhagen.

    Gee, why would you say that?

    http://www.nytimes.com/cwire/2009/12/17/17climatewire-hillary-clinton-pledges-100b-for-developing-96794.html

  5. stan said

    Stupid is forever. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gxKStPXyn8

  6. John M said

    Maybe we’re a little too cynical. With so many concerned people coming together for the common good, I’m sure they will have a great impact. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if this “breakthrough” will have as much of an impact as past “breakthroughs”

    http://scrippsco2.ucsd.edu/images/graphics_gallery/original/mlo_seas_adj.pdf

  7. Hal said

    Shawn McCarthy is dreaming. Here are some points from the REUTER story,
    even though it leads with this headline:
    Climate talks end with steps to fight global warming

    It is also not yet clear how the $100 billion a year for the Green Climate Fund will be raised.

    The main success in Cancun after two weeks of talks was simply to prevent the collapse of climate change negotiations, bolster support for a shift to low carbon economies and rebuild trust between rich and poor countries on the challenges of global warming.

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  9. Hoi Polloi said

    …. and Cancun was closed by a standing singing of the “Internationale” by everyone….

  10. Retired Engineer said

    Typical “Crazy Eddie” actions (again). Like drilling a hole in the bottom of a sinking ship to “let the water out”.

    Niven and Pournelle nailed it nearly 20 years ago.

  11. ArndB said

    #____”Countries also committed to limiting the increase in the global average temperature to 2 degrees Celsius”
    What is the reason that COP16 talks about “limiting a temperature increase”?

    The UNITED NATIONS FRAMEWORK CONVENTION ON CLIMATE CHANGE (UNFCCC), which defines the mandate of COP16 and subsequent conferences, (excerpt):

    ”Article 2 OBJECTIVE
    The ultimate objective of this Convention and any related legal instruments that the Conference of the Parties may adopt is to achieve, in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Convention, stabilization of greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere at a level that would prevent dangerous anthropogenic interference with the climate system…….”

    Any action taken shall be targeted at:
    ___ stabilization of greenhouse gas (GHG) concentrations,
    ___ at a level that would prevent dangerous anthropogenic interference with the climate system.

    As that to prove seem too difficult for science, the GHG-concentration is replaced by “temperature”. The show must go on, and the big money shall flow.

    Although so-called Cancun Agreement is not a legally binding instrument it was (imo) adopted to keep up the talking about AGW, and to serve as the blueprint for a future binding climate treaty, which may be not a Kyoto II (on GHG), but a legally binding “Cancun Agreement” on – inter alia- “temperature increase limitation”.

  12. RomanM said

    My take on the whole debacle is that the agreement is more of a face-saving status quo measure than an “agreement” to take things forward. It appears that they came away with pretty much what they brought in.

    Canada’s position was to coat-tail onto the US (probably not an unwise thing to do because of trade considerations) and I didn’t see any (could be wrong here) binding financial commitments to dishing out our scarce dollars to the multitude of smaller countries hoping to make a killing on this whole affair.

    What the major players (US, UK, EU, China) decide to do over the next year will be much more important than what transpired in Cancun.

  13. Hank Hancock said

    Having been spellbound by prayer to the moon goddess Coyolxauhqui, filled to the gills with exotic foods, exhausted by the extravagant parties, and intoxicated with strong drink, how could they resist signing what their gracious UN party planners placed before them? With all the back patting and high five’ing over (not to mention barfing up last night’s hors d’oeuvres and mezcal), they must now go home and sell their deed to their respective governments and people. At this juncture, the party is over literally and figuratively. With the U.S. 112’th congress promising to cut the government budget, place on hold the sending of climate related funding to foreign governments, disbanding of congressional climate change committees, and the EPA starting to receive the jaundiced eye, this pig ain’t going to fly no way no how. They knew it when they signed. It’s another empty face saving press endearing farce these Corinthians have become so well known for.

  14. Graeme said

    And by 2014,

    “Bingo, there’s the point. I don’t think they used US as an example here either, it ain’t hard to guess where most of the hundred billion will be stolen from. US taxpayers. Good thing we’re using it for credible goals like giving it to communist countries that repress their people and economies.”

    It’s entirely possible $100B USD will buy 3 big macs and a bag of fries – thanks to the Fed reserve Bank…

  15. Steve Fitzpatrick said

    The EPA efforts to restrict CO2 emissions are only an administrative regualtion. The only way to stop it is to have a different administrator; that is, limit Mr. Obama to one term.

  16. Graeme said

    “I can’t even imagine how they expect expensive energy production to help the poor but the machinations of the leftist mind are way beyond my comprehension.”

    If you assume that the wealthy got that way by theft – then it follows that the process of theft is the primary method for the creation of wealth.

    When reason does not provide the answer – then unreason must

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  18. harrywr2 said

    “I can’t even imagine how they expect expensive energy production to help the poor”

    Steam coal prices are currently hovering around $120/tonne in most of the world with the exception of the US and expected to rise to $140/tonne by 2012.

    A standard 1,000 megawatt coal fired plant burns 3 million tonnes per year. A $420 million/year fuel bill for a coal fired plant is not cheap(7 cents/KW just for fuel). A world bank loan at 5% interest for a nice South Korean 1,000 megawatt nuke plant at a bargain price of $4 billion makes more financial sense. The interest payment would only be $200 million/year.

  19. TGSG said

    Graeme #16

    “If you assume that the wealthy got that way by theft – then it follows that the process of theft is the primary method for the creation of wealth.”

    got it in one!

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  21. Frank K. said

    Hank Hancock said
    December 11, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    What Hank said! ;^)

    PS
    I’m all for giving poorer countries money to help fight climate change. We can simply take the money out of the collective climate research budgets of NASA, NOAA, and NSF, and tell the affected researchers to find suitable positions in the private sector…

  22. Ken said

    Smacks of wedge politics – cook up an expectation cake that can’t be delivered, present it to the new congress and have them vote it down to the wails of the environmentalists, foster and bluster to harness those votes, with progressive propaganda and bingo – Hilary firmly in the saddle.

  23. AngryKoala said

    This is what happens when bad policies are implemented by corrupt and inept politicians:

    Death of 27 asylum seekers highlights Australia’s immigration problems

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/8203842/Death-of-27-asylum-seekers-highlights-Australias-immigration-problems.html

    And the world still wants to believe in this global warming crap?

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