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Nothing New Under the Sun

Posted by Jeff Id on December 18, 2011


Sara Reardon was hardly alone when she wrote
- “There’s nothing really new in a second massive cache of e-mails”, on the same day that the huge pile was released.  A “massive” cache with nothing new?….hmm.   Just how it is that she knew that is beyond me. But a lot of reporters seemed to teleconnect the same point made first by surReal Climate.  I have still read only a fraction (being tired of it) and today we have a unique new bit for the public.   Remember those august committees formed by the government to see if the  government might have screwed up?   Ya know, the ones who decided that the government funded people were innocent of wrongdoing?

One determination by the committees was that nobody had deleted any emails to cover anything up.  Well it looks like they may have accidentally gotten the answer right.  Instead of deletion, they were copied (cut and paste) to a personal portable USB drive. David Holland has an excellent guest post on the matter at Bishop Hill blog.

Climate audit has added some detail.

We have emails from all in Ch 6 to say the group doesn’t want emails made available.

I’ve read the USB quote by David Holland in the emails.  I’ve been slowly compiling them – very slowly.  It is fantastically boring reading the work of people who are poorly qualified. In the end, I have to agree with Sara on this one.  We already knew they did it, even though the skeptic-deaf adjudicators claimed they didn’t.


14 Responses to “Nothing New Under the Sun”

  1. Matthew W said

    The link to the David Holland article at Bish Hill is not active

  2. M. Simon said

    The link is:

    http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2011/12/17/the-palutikoff-email.html

    Bishop Hill.

  3. Matthew W said

    Step by step, inch by inch, Slowly I turned……………………….
    How can the MSM keep seeing all of this and not be able to understand it?

  4. [...] Nothing New Under the Sun [...]

  5. Cosmic Ray said

    “How can the MSM keep seeing all of this and not be able to understand it?”

    I think they clearly understand the ramifications of reporting climategate 2.0 which is why I think they are for the most part ignoring it.

  6. AJStrata said

    Yeah nothing new – except how bad the CRU data is and why Jones was fighting FOIA so hard:

    http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/17760

    Bottom line, the CRU results are not repeatable – now or in the past. It is the gridded data set that cannot be reconstituted. And that is the basis of regional, hemispheric and global anomaly claims. All of which must now be withdrawn since the CRU results cannot be reproduced.

  7. Brian H said

    Yuck.
    He who controls the Garbage In controls the Garbage Out — in this case, AR1,2,3,4,5 …

  8. The name spell in the URL is wrong. There is only one “f” at the end.
    Said person is now employed in Australia.
    http://www.nccarf.edu.au/conference2010/archives/475

  9. steveta_uk said

    AJStrata (11:55), it appears to me that you’ve been far harder on Phil Jones than Greg Laden was on TallBlock, so you can expect either a law suite coming your way, or else he is so clearly guilty that he will keep quiet.

    Either way, an interesting result.

  10. Mark T said

    The difference is that AJ backed up his claim. Laden did not, nor could he have.

    Mark

  11. Carrick said

    Mark T:

    The difference is that AJ backed up his claim. Laden did not, nor could he have.

    Laden’s own link contradicted his hyper-ventillated description of TallBloke. Plus you have a long delay between when he was alerted that his comments were in error and libelous and when he finally half-assedly corrected them. He has totally screwed the pooch on that one.

  12. AJStrata said

    Steveta_UK

    If Phil would like to explain where I am wrong I am all ears. And he can expect me to scrutinize his reasoning as I would any space program I review.

    Good luck him passing the test.

  13. kuhnkat@yahoo.com said

    “Well it looks like they may have accidentally gotten the answer right. Instead of deletion, they were copied (cut and paste) to a personal portable USB drive.”

    A difference that makes no difference to an illegal action. If the mails were responsive to the FOI’s, and were purposefully removed from being available…

  14. Mark T said

    #11 Carrick:

    Indeed.

    Mark

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