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Posted by Jeff Id on August 10, 2009

Today marks the 1 year anniversary of the Air Vent. None of this was planned and had I realized the work level it takes to run a blog, I don’t know if tAV would have been started. Either way, I’m happy with what we’ve done here and offer my heartfelt thanks to all those who have contributed and commented as you are the ones who keep me going. Blogs are 100% comment powered. To some degree, it’s surprising how worthwhile it feels to do a post and have myself and others learn from it. It’s also invaluable to have a venue for another individual to describe some aspect of AGW not everyone has considered.

The Air vent has had some effect on individuals and scientists. This project revealed to me the underground network of highly skilled professionals who work behind the scenes as true scientific skeptics, many of whom are supportive yet fear for their careers to take a public position. I have concerns about that myself, despite what some advocates seem to think, family IS more important than a few C of global warming.

This past year revealed to me a small group of technically skilled blogs and scientific discussion which on the skeptic side is unmatched for quality of science and integrity in blogland. The whole experience has given me a comfort and understanding that individuals do exist who understand and can counter some of the more extreme claims of climate science and more importantly have the inherent willingness to let the data take them where it does.

From these connections, we’ve seen examples of peer review being used to fight back good papers which demonstrate clear evidence to the contrary of extremist global warming and accept bad papers in support. Fortunately, the outlet for some of this work has shifted to blogland where the damage to the journals and credibility of peer review is creating a negative feedback which, if it hasn’t already, will eventually influence the process for the better.

So for the 430,000 views and 7,200 comments left, thank you. The rookie season has ended and we’re on to bigger and better things.

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This weekend was spent buried in stats again in relation to the Antarctic Reconstructions and hope to have some new posts on that soon but it takes time. In the meantime, I keep reading the news to see whats going on, as reported by our now state run media. Don’t worry, no political venting coming, I’m so disgusted with politics, it feels like there may be months before the nausea settles and anything else comes up.

This morning, I read a report by the Chicago Tribune which was reporting on the heartland institiute’s Chicago get together of AGW individuals who wish to promote the view that AGW is false or highly questionable science.

Global warming skeptics gather to share disbelief

In an obvious effort to marginalize dissent, attaching labels to Skeptics has become a passion of today’s press. Reporters flatly refuse to differentiate between skeptic’s and climate change deniers preferring to understand skepticism using some form of street definition where the nuance of the meaning is lost replacing it as a synonym for denier. This is not entirely the press’s fault as the advocate scientists for AGW seem to enjoy the perpetuation of this blurring this particular definition. In fact, to my own dismay many self proclaimed skeptics have even missed the difference so let’s be clear. A scientific skeptic is defined in Wikipedia as:

A scientific (or empirical) skeptic is one who questions the reliability of certain kinds of claims by subjecting them to a systematic investigation.

This is obviously entirely different from denial. Denial, is a complete disagreement with a statement or position. My view is that only one position is currently reasonable regarding climate change, skepticism. By that, I’m saying – we don’t know.

Can you prove unequivocally or even with an overwhelming preponderance of evidence that the earth has warmed unusually in the last 50 years? – Nope

Can you demonstrate that the warming that has occurred is clearly created from the addition of global warming gasses to the atmosphere? – Nope

Can you state that the current change is outside the natural variability of the global climate? – No you can’t.

At the same time does the opposite hold true.

Can you prove unequivocally or even with an overwhelming preponderance of evidence that the earth has NOT warmed unusually in the last 50 years? – No.

Can you demonstrate that the warming that has occurred is clearly NOT created from the addition of global warming gasses to the atmosphere? – Nope

Can you state that the current change is NOT outside the natural variability of the global climate? – Nope.

We do however know that CO2 is good at catching outgoing long wave radiation due to greybody emission from the earths surface and atmosphere. The addition of CO2 WILL definitely cause an increased capture of heat. This is known to a very high degree of certainty, and is as solid a fact as there is in science. No matter what the feedback level, this guarantees some form of warming from the addition of CO2. The real question is, how do the atmospheric feedback mechanisms react to the CO2 based warming and for this — nobody has the answer.

Yet despite the above truths, scientists and polyscienticians have oddly declared consensus. Of course to anyone with an inkling of scientific background knows the claim of scientific consensus is actually the weakest argument possible in science, especially when it’s not true. Polling of scientists is astoundingly unscientific for support of a scientific conclusion.

Now you may be tempted to argue the above points. I’m aware of the arguments on both sides but that is not the point of this post. If you don’t mind, lets focus on the other aspect of what’s happening, it is more important than the nuances of the above arguments. The point of this post is the different from whether or not you think an item is proven or strongly demonstrable. The point I’d like to make is one of labels.

From my internet travels, the best label available for a scientific skeptic is Lucia’s brilliantly coined Lukewarmer. Lukewarmer acknowledges the facts that CO2 does cause some warming in conjunction with the fact that advocate scientists are promoting literature and conclusions on the most extreme side of possibility as known fact. The only reason I don’t claim it is because it sounds like a reduced level of warming is proven, when it is not, actual warming could be higher or lower than measured. I do believe (like many here) that a reduced level of warming is probably the real answer. I am somehow certain that the global disasters are nothing but BS. This is admittedly unscientific, however, it is IMO scientifically equal to some of the peer reviewed disaster papers based on ridiculous data and proxies. How about that idiotic paper on fish shrinking due to global warming. πŸ™‚

Therefore warming can still be on the extreme edge, just as the consensus proclaims or it could even be immesurably small in relation to climate variation. Nobody actually knows.

So what stirred me up this morning, the article linked above has a few unfortunate labels for the Heartland institute convention which do an excellent job of demonstrating some of the reporting bias. First, I’d like to start with an obnoxious quote of the sort that gives AGW skeptics a bad name:

“The science is settled,” said S. Fred Singer, a University of Virginia environmental sciences professor, mimicking a line that former Vice President Al Gore used in his documentary “An Inconvenient Truth.” “And it’s settled in concluding that most of the warming of the climate is caused by natural forces, not human activity.”

While it may feel good to hear, Fred would need a license to be more full of crap. Clearly nothing has been settled. However, the rhetoric is equally balanced by the other side where consensus has been declared and the labels are flying as fast as they can, check this alleged quote out from David Doniger with the addition of the authors own description. (my bold)

Depending on one’s perspective, the skeptics are either Davids going up against the Goliaths of the UN climate panel, left-wing environmental groups, and the liberal media, or they are “an oddball collection of ideologues, deniers, and front men for energy companies,” in the words of David Doniger, head of climate policy for the Natural Resources Defense Council, one of the climate skeptics’ chief adversaries.

So skeptics are Davids, oddballs, ideologues, deniers and front men for energy companies whereas advocates are Goliaths of a panel, environmental groups and liberal media. I have a great deal of difficulty with the media (Stevenson Swanson in this case) continually hammering away that somehow skeptics are energy funded and therefore non-credible for that fact while COMPLETELY ignoring the tens of thousands of times greater funding for government science. All the while somehow missing the minor detail that the government is not an impartial observer as it is a clear and in my opinion the only beneficiary of AGW proposed (alleged) mitigation policies.

I also have a problem of the scintists/advocates in AGW science being viewed as Goliaths, fat maybe but Goliaths?

Skeptics are skeptical of conclusions, not in denial of conclusions but rather willing to question the basis or supporting facts behind the conclusions. Skepticism does not detract from credibility but is rather substantially enhances credibility relative to the advocates of the IPCC. From the thousands of similar examples to the one above, it has become apparent that it is the activist media which is working in conjunction with advocate government funded scientists to distort and marginalize an otherwise accurate term into something it is not. Rather than change my own moniker, I’ll resist.

I am a skeptic!

Anyway, here’s to another year of healthy skepticism on tAV. I’ll leave this happy post on those who refuse to be sheople with the following telling quote from the above article. A statement which is oddly supposed to give MORE credibility to the IPCC.

“We’re using the word “most’ very carefully here,” said Solomon, who noted that the panel’s work was reviewed by more than 600 scientists and accepted by more than 100 governments.

It’s hard to imagine reporters missing the bias in that beauty.


35 Responses to “Labels”

  1. joshv said

    Happy Blog b-day Jeff!

  2. John said

    Well done, well done!

    (Of course they will probably read this and print it as their own;))

  3. Andrew said

    tAV,

    Congrats and Continued Success to you! When people (tA)Vent, sometimes the truth comes out. πŸ˜‰

    Andrew

  4. Phillip Bratby said

    Congratulations on a good and very productive first year (of many more to come).

  5. Layman Lurker said

    Congratulations on the aniversary. Thank you for all you have given to your readers.

  6. Steve Fitzpatrick said

    “The addition of CO2 WILL definitely cause an increased capture of heat. This is known to a very high degree of certainty, and is as solid a fact as there is in science. No matter what the feedback level, this guarantees some form of warming from the addition of CO2 The real question is, how do the atmospheric feedback mechanisms react to the CO2 based warming and for this β€” nobody has the answer.”

    You are inviting a barrage of (mostly emotional) critiques when you say this, as I have learned from saying exactly the above in my recent guest post at WUWT. Perhaps we should coin a new label, like “rational skeptic”.

  7. Hal said

    Congrats on the Anniversary.

    I like your 3 points, namely “prove, demonstrate and state” one way or another. I will probably steal these boxes and use them in comments elsewhere. (I will reference the source).

    I don’t know what to call myself, but I know I am NOT a “Natural Climate Change Denier”.

  8. Jeff Id said

    Thanks everyone.

    #6, Steve,

    It’s funny, the AGW scientists can’t accept studies which show increased snowpack in a local area such as the US northwest despite the fact that it doesn’t contradict AGW and some WUWT readers can’t handle that a gas absorbs long wave radiation. — odd world, at least it’s consistent in this case. πŸ˜‰

    #7, Thanks and feel free.

  9. Kenneth Fritsch said

    Jeff ID, your anniversary is a good time to let you know that your efforts at Air Vent are much appreciated.

    I think the strengths of your blog are exemplified in what you, Ryan O and other contributors did here on the analysis of the Steig reconstruction. I thought your blog approached a step or two closer to my ideal concept of a blog. What I particularly appreciated was the time taken to summarize and explain the points made (and those that required further analysis) and that interest was not lost before a number of questions were addressed and answered.

    Keep up the good work.

  10. rephelan said

    Congratulations and keep up the good work. I’ve learned a lot on this site. May I suggest for a headline in December “World Wide Science Fiction Writers Conference Convenes in Copenhagen to Discuss Fantasy and Alternate Reality”?

  11. wattsupwiththat said

    Well done and congratulations.

    Anthony

  12. Jeff, let me add my congratulations. You are very much on my read list. Best wishes, Steve Mc

  13. Eric Anderson said

    Thanks, Jeff. The Air Vent is on the regular reading list for me — keep up the good work.

  14. Jeff Id said

    Thanks again everyone, with a list like that it looks like I’ll have to keep working.

  15. John F. Pittman said

    Jeff said “”Polling of scientists is astoundingly unscientific for support of a scientific conclusion.””

    I think Anthony should have this as “Quote of the Week”” since it applies to both die-hard camps.

    Beats the heck out of some of those “goofs” that get quoted.

  16. Ryan O said

    tAV is on my must-read list, too. Of course, by now, that probably goes without saying! πŸ™‚ Congrats, Jeff.

  17. curious said

    Chiming in with more: great blog and great posts, many thanks. Looking forwards to seeing you publish. Best wishes C

  18. pyromancer76 said

    Jeff Id, congratulation on the many efforts of the last year.

    “This past year revealed to me a small group of technically skilled blogs and scientific discussion which on the skeptic side is unmatched for quality of science and integrity in blogland.”

    I think the quality of science and integrity is unmatched anywhere — especially in peer-reviewed journals. “Blogland” is where the cutting edge science is being done today. In addition, the community of posters and commenters are willing to educate non-technically literate readers such that the level of scientific knowledge and awareness of the scientific method has been immeasurably enhanced.

    Great work and many thanks.

  19. RomanM said

    Way to go Jeff! You are on my regular reading list too.

    Happy 1th!

  20. timetochooseagain said

    Nice work man!

    I have to say that I consider myself a “denier” even though I don’t disagree with much of what you have written here. From my perspective the alarmed (notice I avoid using the “label”?) are promoting catastrophes which couldn’t happen even if their view of how much warming could happen were correct. Such things deserve to be denied.

  21. JAE said

    Great site. Keep up the great work. I especially like the fact that some venting is allowed here πŸ™‚

  22. Antonio San said

    Bravo Jeff! it was the contest, I mean the “most extreme GW prediction” that is, that hook me up.

  23. JAE said

    On the serious side, I object to this statement:

    “We do however know that CO2 is good at catching outgoing long wave radiation due to greybody emission from the earths surface and atmosphere. The addition of CO2 WILL DEFINITELY cause an increased capture of heat. This is known to a very high degree of certainty, and is as solid a fact as there is in science.”

    We DO know that CO2 “absorbs” IR. We DON’T know if additional CO2 has any effect on temperature. (“DEFINITELY” is a very worrisome word in science, Jeff…) Sorry, but the science just “ain’t settled” on this issue, either. We do know that the air is heated by the Sun and that the GHGs probably accelerate that heating (we call that thermalization). We do NOT know if more GHGs will have any affect on this basic phenomenon (thermalization). Problematically, we DO observe that the areas in the world that have the greatest amounts of GHGs are not the warmest areas in the world, which calls into question some of this “solid as a fact” crap. The Tropic wet areas rarely, if ever, exceed 33 C. The deserts COMMONLY exceed that temperature. WTF?

    What has not been vetted properly is the effect of the Ideal Gas Law on temperatures on this Planet:

    http://www.climateaudit.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=754

    Given this rant, am I still a skeptic, or am I a true Denialist? I guess I will get my thirty lashes πŸ™‚

  24. timetochooseagain said

    23-Tropical temperatures are strongly constrained by evaporative cooling. What makes you think Desserts aren’t humid, anyway? And what makes you think deserts are hot? What about Antarctica?

    Everyone who I listen to actually does agree on that simple point. Lindzen, Spencer, Christy-they all say that there has to be some effect.

  25. willnitschke said

    Congrats,

    A very interesting blog, I read it frequently.

  26. Rob R said

    Well done. I check out this blog regularly and will continue to do so.

  27. Ralph B said

    Ok the question is, now that you have a well established blog, are you sporting any facial hair? Anthony has his Wilford Brumley ‘stash, Steve Mc the scraggly beard. I was thinking mutton chops would be in order.

  28. Dave E said

    Warmest Congratulations !
    Thank you for being a well argued voice of reason in this consensual age of pseudo-science.

    More please.

  29. Mark T said

    What makes you think Desserts aren’t humid, anyway?

    Deserts have very low humidity, Antarctica (a cold desert) included.

    Mark

  30. Kenneth Fritsch said

    Lukewarmer acknowledges the facts that CO2 does cause some warming in conjunction with the fact that advocate scientists are promoting literature and conclusions on the most extreme side of possibility as known fact. The only reason I don’t claim it is because it sounds like a reduced level of warming is proven, when it is not, actual warming could be higher or lower than measured. I do believe (like many here) that a reduced level of warming is probably the real answer. I am somehow certain that the global disasters are nothing but BS. This is admittedly unscientific, however, it is IMO scientifically equal to some of the peer reviewed disaster papers based on ridiculous data and proxies.

    Jeff ID, your comments above pretty well define my current view of AGW and why I also would not apply the moniker of lukewarmer to my position. My view can be reduced to (1) the issues of feedbacks and its associated uncertainties, (2) given the predictions of AGW or GW, the claims of detrimental effects are in my view even more uncertain and finally (3) given AGW plus feed back and the detrimental effects of it, I have very major concerns about government initiated efforts at mitigations as is in evidence from the Kyoto accords and the current cap and trade in the US legislative hopper.

    I am also of the view that the consensus of climate scientists on AGW and the need for mitigation is driven much more by where they stand on the political spectrum than any evidence they bring to table from their small domains of climate science. A close questioning of these consensus makers would, I am confident, reveal a political bias in favor of government actions in not only climate related issues but many others as well.

  31. Arn Riewe said

    Congratulations and keep up the good work.

    O/T but it would be interesting to visit the disintegration of the Wilkins Ice Shelf again. That was one of your hot topics about 6 months ago. I wonder how much more it’s disintegrated over the past six months?

  32. hswiseman said

    Jeff,

    I would say you had one heck of year! tAV has come a long way from your early hockey-stick posts to a “must read” today. The work on Steig by you and Ryan O really set a standard as to what can be accomplished in this format. Keep raising the bar.

    Congratulations, Howard

  33. Page48 said

    Congrats on the one year mark! Keep up the good work.

  34. Dean said

    While we probably wouldn’t agree on exactly where to draw the line between skeptics and deniers, I agree that the denier label is sometimes applied unfairly. Pielke Jr is the most obvious example I know of. And many nasty labels are applied to scientists working on the issue who aren’t skeptics. You don’t have to look hard to see some nasty stuff about the IPCC, RCers, et al, that goes far byond criticism of moderation policy, etc.

    I think that the political fight tends to subsume the scientific one when this much is at stake.

    As as to how feedbacks and how they affect the first order warming – don’t the fact that we got ice ages from the minimal Milankovitch cycles present some pretty good evidence for the preponderance of positive feedbacks, with negative ones stepping in much later?

  35. timetochooseagain said

    34-The short answer is no. The long answer is not worth getting into.

    And as far as I’m concerned, RC probably deserves everything they “get”.

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