Extreme Climate –
Posted by Jeff Id on July 1, 2010
Andrew or TTCA, wrote a post which linked to some commentary by Dr. Steig at Real Climate. The comment was a bit stunning in my opinion.
91Barry Woods says:
If realclimate coudld link to luke wamer blogs, it might reduce the criticism of advocatcy..
‘climate Sicence for climate scientists’
as they link to desmog blog and geaorge monbiot,
but not climate audit, pielke’s or say lucia’s blackboard..
george monbiot is not a scientist, he is a journalist!
So it does look like advocacy to a new observer
If they cuold bring themselve to do this it would be a gesture of goodwill..
Having a link to ‘how to talk to Global Warming Sceptic’ vetted and endorsed by professionals at RealClimate, reflects, to an observer badly on RealClimate..
So, constructive advice, drop the links to the more ‘flag waving’ type advocacy sites, include some ‘respected’ alternative views, it would help Realclimate stop being ‘perceived’ as an advocacy site rather than a science site…
[Response: Being listed on our blogroll does not constitute endorsement. In general, the sites we do list — whether they are run by scientists or not — tend to get the science right much of the time, and hence are consistent with our mission. Being not-listed could mean that a) we haven’t heard of the site, b) that it is uninteresting or unimportant, or c) that we consider it dishonest or disingenuous with respect to the science. Pielke Jr, Blackboard, and ClimateAudit all fall squarely into the latter category.–eric]
I’m glad tAV wasn’t listed by Dr. Steig but calling these three blogs dishonest or disingenuous is dis-gusting. I’ve seen not one valid criticism of any statement of any of these three blogs at RC. Nothing, not one. I’ve done my share of Pielke bashing -for his ridiculous comments on CO2 limitation, very big view of himself and that kind of garbage but he does not strike me as dishonest. I’ve made negative comments at the blackboard and they have been addressed openly. Calling Lucia dishonest is um.. incorrect,and I suspect somewhat dangerous – she does knit after all. Steve M probably doesn’t care.
I think the doc needs to start hanging out with a new group of friends.