“What does staff buyout mean?” I don’t know but here’s a guess. Jones has university dutiesthat he puts aside to do work on DOE business, and the money mentioned is used to hire someone else to cover those duties.
#5 You realize you are comparing the funding of Exxon to a hundred billion plus dollar global industry. And the ‘funding’ was documented by a group openly dedicated to the mitigation of the economy, and reported by an extreme leftist blog which would further the greenpeace cause if for no other reason than they like limitation policy.
#5 You realize you are comparing the funding of Exxon to a hundred billion plus dollar global industry.
no, i am not doing that. i am comparing the money to the sum mentioned in your headline. as i said above.
And the ‘funding’ was documented by a group openly dedicated to the mitigation of the economy, and reported by an extreme leftist blog which would further the greenpeace cause if for no other reason than they like limitation policy.
if you have doubts about the story, simply name them Jeff. if you don t have doubts about it, do not pretend that there are some.
EXXON made a false claim about the funding.
and the amount is similar, to the amount mentioned by Jeff in the headline. the CRU provide accurate climate information,with the money they received. this has been confirmed by multiple investigations.
the EXXON money is given with the purpose of spreading disinformation. can you see the difference?
Jeff, this is only for the grant DE-FG02-98-ER62601 from 1998 to 2008. Jones had been funded by DOE for at least 15 years before that and for 2 years after. So it’s at least double the amount shown here.
#14 – “Jeff, this is only for the grant DE-FG02-98-ER62601 from 1998 to 2008. Jones had been funded by DOE for at least 15 years before that and for 2 years after. So it’s at least double the amount shown here.”
Oh dear, Phil has something to answer for here. Not the $2.2mil, but, perhaps he forgot to provide the proper update to the DoE that T. Wigley had done so well in the past (Before moving on from CRU). T. Wigley appears to have made yearly reports to the US DoE, while on the DoE dole. Phil appears to have gotten stuck on an publication of MM2004 to pay attention to the DoE obligations. US citizens may fear the “tax-man”, but this must be troubling to say the least.
Apparently, 60397 was supposed to be superceded by 60601 (Reports included), but CRU dropped the ball and cashed the checks. Too busy with MM2004 to fulfill obligations to other governments. No wonder Tom was worried as well.
As many have pointed out, the CRU funding is peanuts compared to the millions/billions our government is lavishing on the climate research groups- including stimulus funds (which they are commanded to spend fast…).
As a private company, Exxon can do what it wants with its money, just as George Soros can do what he wants with his money. That is, of course, unless certain people want to dictate what other people can do with their money…that’s called a dictatorship.
Steve McIntyre in his tireless way found an earlier reference of interest here from CA. I’ve lost the hyperlink in copying. Sorry. Thank you, Steve.
Steve McIntyre says:
July 21, 2010 at 5:01 pm
IN 2005, as reported at CA here, the US DOE told Warwick Hughes the following:
Subject: Re: Station data required for 1856-2004 Jones et al
Unfortunately, our data center does not have any of the six requested items. You will need to contact Phil directly. I spoke today with the DOE program manager who indicated Phil was not obligated under the conditions of past or present DOE proposal awards to provide these items to CDIAC. I regret we cannot furnish the materials you seek.
So the USA pays Phil around $us 3 million and he’s not obligated to make a full report? Where is the USA Auditor-General (as would be the Office here)?
24 organizations in ExxonSecrets database were funded in 2009:
* AEI American Enterprise Institute $235,000
* Atlas Economic Research Foundation $100,000
* National Taxpayers Union Foundation $80,000
* Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory $76,106
* Annapolis Center $75,000
* Communications Institute $75,000
* National Black Chamber of Commerce $75,000
* Pacific Research Institute for Public Policy $75,000
* Heritage Foundation $50,000
* Manhattan Institute $50,000
* Media Research Center $50,000
* ALEC American Legislative Exchange Council $47,500
* Mercatus Center, George Mason University $40,000
* Washington Legal Foundation $40,000
* Center for American and International Law $33,50
* Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment $30,000
* American Council for Capital Formation Center for Policy Research $25,000
* American Spectator Foundation $25,000
* National Association of Neighborhoods $25,000
* Texas Public Policy Foundation $20,000
* Federalist Society $15,000
* Pacific Legal Foundation $15,000
* Landmark Legal Foundation $10,000
* Mountain States Legal Foundation $10,000
Yes, these are the “go to” groups for Climate Change denialism.