Crackdown – U.S. Representative Ed Markey (D-MA) – It’s time to bring them to justice!
Posted by Jeff Id on December 17, 2011
I’ve been contacted by several reporters over the last few days asking what was going on with the seizure of Tallbloke’s computers. I have responded to each by email pointing out some of what seem to be obvious facts in the DOJ case and then adding that they (the reporters) are looking into the wrong crime. I tried to keep the tone nice but wasn’t always sucessful. Several reporters asked me about why I thought it wasn’t a crime to release the emails, to which I replied, we didn’t do it. We simply run climate blogs. It may seem like an excuse to some of the less informed, but there is actually no mechanism for us to prevent the release of these emails. Since we cannot prevent it, how is it that we are suspects in the act itself? Yes, I know they told Tallbloke that he wasn’t a suspect, but does anyone really believe that? Police say crap like that all the time. It keeps the suspect calm while they investigate him.
Of course the police know that it is intimidating to enter a persons home and take all of their personal information but let’s think about this for a moment. Michael Mann who is largely government paid, has been caught colluding with Phil Jones and others to hide data from the IPCC in order to make a stronger than actual case for unprecedented 20th century warming. And by caught, I mean really really caught. Instead of actually looking into his other emials, on his government funded computer, they hold multiple completely fake investigations and clear the whole CRUe. They didn’t go into Mike or Phil’s houses and check their personal computers to find context, instead they go to an anonymous bloggers house and take his machines telling him falsely that he is not a suspect.
What information could they possibly get from an innocent blogger who simply writes skeptically about bad science in climate that they couldn’t get from WordPress – the blog host? There is only one thing I can think of, personal communications with the perpetrator. Tallbloke is either a suspect in collusion with foia.org OR they want him to stop blogging. Of course so are the rest of us on that list in the letter from the US DOJ, and I’m sure a few others are suspects who aren’t on the list.
“No Jeff, you guys are evil deniers.”, the advocates write. “You are complicit in the release of the emials. ”
To which I reply — Ok geniuses, tell me how to stop it!
A full twenty five people had downloaded them before I noticed the link and over 160 had downloaded by my first post which was the first on the internet tilted Climategate 2.0. Note the clever title I gave it. I’m sure that the name was illegal somehow. What should I have done instead? Phone the internet and tell it to stop!
My guess is that the police are likely not happy about having to investigate fake crimes. They know these simple facts about internet information very well and unlike the biased media, they can read hide the decline and understand the context quite well. See, the police ain’t stupid. They are used to being lied to and when the climate boys tell them – out of context – it requires a personal interpretation by the investigator to determine whether the suspect is telling the truth. Yes, everyone is a suspect to them. Of course they do have to follow orders from the boss. Have you ever wondered why the Climategate 1 release required the highest and most political levels of the UK police to investigate?
Anyway, I sort of gave an earful to the various reporters that contacted me. I even quoted one guys stuff back to him asking how the emails could be out of context 8 hours after their release when nobody could have possibly read them in that time – let alone attempt to put them all ‘out of context’.
Lies and obfuscation. So the Sara Reardon, from the AAAS who wrote originally in her Son of Climategate post – “There’s nothing really new in a second massive cache of e-mails” – on the actual day of their release which was weeks before anyone could have actually read them, got a bit of an earful from me. She made a far better article from my email which can be read here. Still I think Sara may have a good idea of what is actually going on and her questions reminded me of something which she linked to that Congressman Markey wrote on the 22nd – the day of Climategate 2.0. In the quote, Markey is such a nutjob that he actually compares climate talks with nuclear arms talks. HIS bold, my red.
“This is clearly an attempt to sabotage the international climate talks for a second time, and there has not been enough attention paid to who is responsible for these illegal acts,” said Rep. Markey, who is the top Democrat on the Natural Resources Committee and is the co-author of the only climate bill to pass a chamber of Congress. “If this happened surrounding nuclear arms talks, we would have the full force of the Western world’s intelligence community pursuing the perpetrators. And yet, with the stability of our climate hanging in the balance with these international climate treaty negotiations, these hackers and their supporters are still on the loose. It is time to bring them to justice.”
Having had my say by email, Sara wrote a more accurate article than the original where she quoted me:
In an e-mail to Science Insider, Id, the U.S. blogger, said that he had not been contacted by DOJ, but said he would find such a raid intimidating and questioned what the police hoped to find. “The only things they could find on Roger’s computer that they can’t get from WordPress (our collective blog host company) would be direct communications with the FOIA group which I have not had, and I am certain that others haven’t either,” he wrote. “The link was dropped on our blogs by an unknown person and becomes public the moment it is dropped. There is no mechanism for us to prevent this kind of thing. … We are simply climate bloggers who got a link showing the corruption of climate science in full view.”
I think every reporter asked me whether it was intimidating to have the Justice Department issuing legal documents for your personal information, watching others computers being confiscated by police on the other side of the planet and leftist congressmen calling for your collective heads?
Hmm, tough one.
Thou shalt not critique Climate Science™.