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Climategate Week 2013

Posted by Jeff Id on November 11, 2013

I’m gone for a week and won’t be blogging after today.   Perhaps Kevin will answer my graph on the previous thread while I’m gone. We will see if he embraces facts as well as he claimed.

As for me, I’ll be lost in the northern woods of Michigan, which means that this is the week climategate broke in 2009.

No people for miles except for our small hunting camp.   I’m looking forward to the break.

Have fun folks.

22 Responses to “Climategate Week 2013”

  1. omanuel said

    Thanks, Jeff, for your efforts to decipher Climategate. Enjoy Nature! By the time you return, the deep historical roots of Climategate may be exposed by a strange coincidence:

    A nuclear geo-chemist at the Imperial University of Tokyo in 1945 – Dr. Kazuo Kuroda – noticed in 1946 when:

    1. The most abundant and most stable atom in the solar system (Fe-56) was suddenly replaced, without discussion or debate [1], by the atom with the highest mass (energy) per nucleon (H-1), in stark violation of the empirical link W. D. Harkins had established in 1917 between atomic abundance and nuclear stability, and

    2. Nuclear stability defined by mass defect (M – A) or the nuclear packing fraction (f = M/A) started to be replaced in textbooks of physics and chemistry by C. F. von Weizsacker’s deeply flawed concept of nuclear binding energy [2].


    1. Fred Hoyle, Home is Where the Wind Blows (University Science Books, 1994, 441 pp): See discussion on page 153-154 when mainstream astronomers like Sir Fred Hoyle and Sir Arthur Eddington still believed the interior of the Sun was mostly iron (Fe).

    2. Oliver K. Manuel, “Binding energy of the nucleus,” Abstract EB1 in Programme of the 1966 Annual APS Meeting in New York (26-29 Jan 1966) Bulletin of the American Physical Society, volume 11, no. 1, page 82

    • omanuel said

      “Nuclear binding energy (B.E.),” as defined by the theoretical nuclear physicist, Carl Friedrich von Weizsäcker, obscures energy from neutron repulsion and shows greater BE for many radioactive atoms than for their stable decay products, e.g.,
      B.E. (H-3) > B.E. (He-3); etc, etc.

      Despite von Weizsäcker’s assistance during WWII, Germany was unable to build the atomic bomb.

      C. F. von Weizsäcker’s older brother was West Germany’s President Richard von Weizsäcker (1984 – 1994), when the Berlin Wall came down and the “Evil Empire” supposedly collapsed.

    • omanuel said

      Correction: Aston’s packing fraction, f = (M – A)/A, is a reliable measure of nuclear stability.

    • omanuel said

      The deceptively convincing model of nuclear binding proposed by the late German theoretical nuclear physicist, Carl F. Von Weizsacker, probably kept

      1. Germany from building an atomic bomb during the Second World War, and

      2. Post-WWII society from knowing that neutron repulsion is the source of energy in cores of heavy atoms, some planets, stars and galaxies.

      Page 7 of the autobiography of my research mentor (Paul Kazuo Kuroda) contains hints that some physicist could not understand Aston’s “packing fraction”.

  2. Andrew said

    I wouldn’t hold my breath for him, personally.

    Anyway, enjoy your break Jeff, I think it is well deserved.

  3. corev said

    Good luck, Jeff! Be careful, the woods will be full of people with loaded guns. 😉

  4. more from Lewandowsky and Mann – ‘anti science can kill’ … apparently

    my comments are allowed…

  5. Matthew W said

    Have fun and good luck.
    If I remember from last year, no kills??

  6. Tom in St. Johns said

    I hope you had success, our herd really needs a cull. Glad to see even brief posts from you. I would really enjoy a narrative on the factors that led to the relocation of your manufacturing plant.

  7. JJ said

    Be sure to pack snacks! –

  8. page488 said

    Have a great time! Send pictures!

  9. corev said

    Well, its time for the REPORT!!!!

    • Jeff Id said

      No apparent climate gate files but I got a 6 pt! 160-170lb range. I’ll post something soon.

      • j ferguson said

        Deer me.

      • corev said

        Congrats! I still have not gotten anything, but did have a hunting accident. While cocking my cross bow, it slipped off my foot at full draw. ~ 9lbs of bow straight into the brow of my forehead, 10 stitches, and a new respect. I now have a crank, which BTW is a very good device to have.

        • Matthew W said

          No,no,no !!!
          Don’t tell that story to anyone about how you got hurt.
          You tell them you saved a busload of nuns, puppies and kittens from going over a cliff.

          • corev said

            Oh no!!!! What have I mistakenly done? Did I tell you I was attempting to shoot out the tire on the bus to keep it from going over the cliff when the cross bow got me? Luckily my fall from the hit landed me under the bus’s tire stopping it.


            Jeff, I at last got a button buck in my backyard using a regular bow. Deer in the backyard are vermin and any removed is good for the garden(s) and landscape(s) in the hood.

          • Matthew W said

            Much better story !!

            Mmm, venison steaks !!

      • Sera said

        Perhaps Steig can show you how to make sausage with Matlab?

  10. Eric Anderson said

    Thanks, Jeff, for all your work and your contribution to the debate. Best of luck in all your endeavors!

  11. timetochooseagain said

    Air Vent readers may be interested in my recent examination, based on satellite data, of potential biases in surface temperature trends in the US and globally. I find evidence that the US surface data is probably very good (a little too cool even!) but that the global data *over*estimate warming by about 50%. No climate models or fancy statistics, this is an analysis anyone could do in a few hours in Excel:

    My argument is essentially about limitations on what a reasonable person can believe about all the data. The position that both USHCN data and global data have no trend bias looks inconsistent or at least unlikely.

  12. omanuel said

    In an unrelated news report in the L A Times, the Journal of Food & Chemical Toxicology retracted a study that linked tumors in rats to the ingestion of Roundup resistant corn that had been genetically modified to be resistant to Monsanto’s Roundup.

    However, Ihe study authors said Friday “they were standing by their findings.” (LA Times)

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